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JavierModerator
Hi Amine. Yes, more or less. The Emergency Speech Plan (ESP) can vary from PWS to PWS however. As you know, in the 3rd Edition of Lee’s Stuttering & Anxiety Self-Cures, he advises that when under pressure, we should go for Crutch 11, right?
But for a lot of PWS we are seeing that sometimes C-11 can be too much for them, because this Crutch consists on 6 steps to focus on at the same time: talk less, slowly, softly, enunciating, pauses and smiling. It can be overwhelming when under pressure. So sometimes it is better to keep it simple: 3 elements at most. The simpler, the better.
So maybe one ESP could be pauses + linking + soft voice, for example. But maybe for someone else their ESP could be the same but with singing instead of linking.But for most people the best ESP is simply: (1) talk less, (2) linking and (3) inserting full stops every few words.
I hope I explained myself clearly…JavierModeratorThe emergency speech plans are proving to be really helpful. When we are under pressure, we need to keep things really simple, otherwise, in some cases, it can be overwhelming, and we might not know how to proceed. Keeping things simple is usually a great approach in most situations.
Like GƔbor said, inserting full stops every few words is always helpful, it keeps us relaxed and it improves our speech, no matter if we are a PWS or a PWSS.
May 10, 2021 at 5:39 pm in reply to: Do you get any positive feedback from family members/friends about your speech? #29780JavierModerator10 pounds is nothing š You’ve done the hardest part!
May 10, 2021 at 4:29 pm in reply to: Do you get any positive feedback from family members/friends about your speech? #29778JavierModeratorWell said, Adam! We do this for ourselves! BTW, congratulations for losing all that weight! It’s a huge accomplishment! You should be very proud!
May 10, 2021 at 9:37 am in reply to: Do you get any positive feedback from family members/friends about your speech? #29776JavierModeratorHi GƔbor. I know what you mean. You know, the only ones who have complimented my speech have been some of my family members, and only if I started speaking about the subject.
Others who have done it have been a couple of friends of my parents who know me since I was a child.
Those of my friends who knew me as a PWS have never said a word about my speech. And I agree with Leah, that’s because they might view it as something they prefer not to talk about, I don’t blame them.
The only opinion that matters to me is my opinion about myself. I know that my speech as improved more than I could have ever imagined. And I’m over the moon about this. I urge you to do the same.I think I’ve told you this story a while ago, when we had our Q&A session: when I had just become a PWSS (or I was really close to it, so my speech was pretty good too), I went to a friend’s house to watch a football match. I hadn’t seen this friend of mine for months. This means that the last time I saw him, I was still a very severe PWS. And the next time we met, we spoke for hours, and I spoke fluently all that time. I was really proud of this achievement. Do you think this friend of mine said anything about this change in my speech? Not a single word.
So, either he didn’t really remember how I used to speak, or he did notice it but didn’t care too much about it, or prefered to not talk about it, in case it makes it akward. In any case, I was really proud for how my speech.Around a year later, I met again with this friend of mine (due to the pandemic, and that he moved to live to another city, we hadn’t had much opportunities to meet). And we were speaking about our jobs, and so on, so I began talking that I appart from my job, I am a coach, and began talking about WSSA, Lee Lovett, etc., and finally he said that he noticed a dramatic change in my speech!
So, GĆ”bor, don’t dwell so much on other people’s opinions. That’s what made us develop a stutter in the first place. Let’s not overthink about it, and let’s simply enjoy speaking in all venues š
JavierModeratorHi John! Thanks for the compliments!
And Tara, welcome to WSSA! This is the right place if you want to stop stuttering. My name is Javier, I used to be a severe and very heavy blocker. But I stopped stuttering a bit more than 2 years ago, and I’m also one of the coaches here.
The advice that John gave you is very good!
I don’t know if you are a Free Trial member or if you are a Stuttering member. I am asking you this because if you haven’t watched the video lessons and some of the +1000 videos of coaching sessions, you should! The video lessons are extremely helpful and they’ll help you understand Lee’s books a lot better:one thing is to read how to do something, and a completely different one is to see someone show you how to do it. The same applies to the videos of coaching sessions. You have a lot of filters available to find the most suitable videos for you, and most likely the advice that I or the rest of the coaches give to one of our students will also be helpful for you.
But of course, the best thing is to get private coaching, as the advice we will be giving you will be tailored for your case.About falling from stutterer’s cliff, most likely (without knowing you), the best Crutch is Crutch 11. Make sure you speak slightly slower (as if you were explaining something difficult to understand to somebody), and inserting pauses every few words. Make these pauses a bit longer than you’d normally do. Insert them every 5 words or so, maximum. Where you insert the full stop doesn’t matter, trust me. Use hand gestures, make sure you pronounce clearly all your syllables, gesticulate, be expressive.
But the most important thing: FULL STOPS. Make sure you really insert them. CLOSE YOUR MOUTH COMPLETELY when doing it. Focus on all these things, forget about the words.
You might view the full stops as something frightening, as you might think that if you insert a pause, you’ll get stuck on the next word. The reality is that the longer your sentences, the more nervous you’ll get, and the harder it will be for you to speak fluently. I’m asking you to do the exact opposite. It is logical to expect opposite results, right?
And even if you’re going to have trouble with the next word, you have Crutches 1-8 to beat it easily. One of my favourites is Crutch 4, for example.I hope you find this helpful. If not , please do let me know.
Send me an email if you prefer: [email protected]
JavierModeratorExactly! Once you get to know how to use it, what it feels like, it’s feels that way! We’re all very proud of you and how far you’ve come, GĆ”bor!! š
JavierModeratorGreat advice, Shubham!
April 28, 2021 at 8:12 am in reply to: Challenges you faced while Travelling for longer durations like 1-3 weeks? #29453JavierModeratorGreat job Shubham!! It’s always great to read these things, they are really motivating! Keep up the good work! Hope to see you in the next SAM meeting!
JavierModeratorHi Maria,
If you like to read poetry, I’d suggest you to ask Lee. I’m not a big fan of poetry. If you prefer to novels, my favourite is, without doubt: Les MisĆ©rables by Victor Hugo. And it’s a perfect book to read passionately. The dialogues, the descriptions….JavierModeratorIn that case, Adam, I’d suggest you to use Crutches 7 to 12 as much as possible. These Crutches are actually going to improve virtually anyone’s speech. Then, if you still have any trouble with any word, as soon as you see yourself beginning to force a word, STOP IMMEDIATELY by inserting a full stop, and then start again using a Crutch. I really like Crutches 4, 8 and 1 to get started, for example.
April 22, 2021 at 4:49 pm in reply to: Should PWSS announce they stutter even if they stopped stuttering?? #29424JavierModeratorAdam, if you were an alcoholic, and you haven’t had a single drop of alcohol for, let’s say, 5 years…. should you address that you are an alcoholic? Even if you haven’t drank a single drop of alcohol in such a long time, and you no longer think about alcohol?
Once you haven’t stuttered in a long time, and you no longer fear words…. you simply forget about stuttering. It is no longer is among your dominant thoughts. It has become part of your past, but not your present, nor your future. Why worry about it then?
JavierModeratorAdam, we define a bad incident as any speech incident which is CLEARLY perceived by a stranger (someonw who doesn’t know you at all). That means that it is clear enough for everyone.
If that’s not the case, it’s not a bad incident. Lee explains it in his book; we also explain it in our coaching sessions. I hope this answers your question.JavierModeratorVery well said Amine. My speech is not always perfect. Nobody’s speech is perfect anyway. But I’m speaking fluently, like the rest of the people. Yes, maybe, when under pressure, my speech might sound a bit more hesitant, but that happens to most people too. And that’s not bad. As long as we don’t appear speech disabled (despite those “bumps”), we’ll be fine.
There is always room for improvement, of course, but we “passed” the test. We didn’t appear speech disabled. Let’s celebrate it! Smile! You did it! Most likely, some months ago you might have had a bad incident in that same situation. BUT NOW YOU DON’T!!And if unfortunately you have a bad incident, don’t be too hard with yourself. We’re humans, we make mistakes. Let’s try to learn from it, let’s be constructive, and then carry on with our lives. We’ve learnt the lesson. Now, we’ll make sure it won’t happen again. This bad incident, if you learn from it, it will make you stronger. But if you dwell on it, it won’t. It will make you go backwards, it will make your stuttering stronger. This is unnecessary. We don’t want that.
So let’s do as Amine suggested, and forget about ourselves, about our fears, and let’s try to give our best effort to use the Crutches and see every speaking situation as an opportunity to improve our speech, to learn something new and to get to love to speak. If you focus on these things, you don’t need to worry about what others might think of you, because they will surely get a good impression about you.
JavierModeratorNow Sun, my advice for you is to master the Crutches. Master the techniques that have helped so many people to avoid appearing speech disabled and improve their speech. If you know how to use them and you become a Speech Cop, you will be able to go to those online meetings (and any other place) and speak without having bad incidents. I’d also suggest you to start from low pressure situations and slowly move to higher pressure situations. Step by step, expand your comfort zones, always making sure you are using the Crutches and speaking without having bad incidents.
If you do this, you’ll see that, for example, the pressure you feel in those online meetings, for example, will decrease until you feel no pressure. The same will apply to other speaking situations.
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