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December 28, 2020 at 8:26 am in reply to: Why is so important to classify ow bad stuttering is??? #28537JavierModerator
I used to be a very severe stutterer. If I spoke with a stranger for 2 minutes, this person would clearly notice that I have a speech problem.
One of my best friends used to be a PWS too. He became a PWSS thanks to the Lovett Method more or less at the same time as I did. But he was a covert stutterer. I didn’t know about this until he told me. Almost nobody knew it. And that makes a HUGE difference.
December 28, 2020 at 8:24 am in reply to: Why is so important to classify ow bad stuttering is??? #28536JavierModeratorI fully agree with you, Gábor.
December 25, 2020 at 10:51 am in reply to: Advice for general conversational speaking at a family event tomorrow? #28529JavierModeratorHi Adam, and Merry Christmas by the way! And congratulations for having had a bad incident in 5 weeks! You can consider yourself a PWSS, otherwise you wouldn’t have achieved this.
About your question, what I would do in your case would be to speak slowly, that’s for sure, and like a King (short bursts, pauses, etc). Be the one who makes questions and listens, not the one who replies and has all the pressure. Be the listener. If the other person replies to you with another question, reply firstly with a “yes”, “no” or “I don’t know” (nodding your head at the same time), and then say what you have to say. I don’t know if you get my point…
Hand gestures help me a lot, it keeps me distracted. Be expressive, play with your voice (modulation / hold your tone).
These are some of the Crutches that I would use. But the most important thing is, as you know, to be a Speech Cop!
I hope this helps 🙂
JavierModeratorHi Luke! Welcome to WSSA!! It’s fantastic to know that thanks to the book and the Lovett method your speech is already improving! Keep on like that and very soon you’ll become a PWSS too. You need to be patient, consistent and determined to beat it, as you surely know by now.
I’m one of the Certified Speech Coaches of WSSA. I stopped stuttering around 2 years ago, and finding Lee’s “Stuttering & Anxiety Self-Cures” has surely saved my life. Here’s my Success Story, in case you’re curious:To stop stuttering even faster, I’d recommend you to use all the resources that WSSA offers here: the video courses, reading the Blogs, asking questions in this Forum, watching videos of coaching sessions (it’s pretty much like being coached by one of us directly), attending to the SpeechAnxietyMasters meetings…. The meetings are extremely motivational, and you learn a lot from other PWSS and learning how they stopped stuttering.
If you’re a Stuttering member of WSSA, you’ll know that now you can get 3 free coaching sessions. Some PWS have only needed that much! One of the PWS that I coached became a PWSS in 5 weeks! And he hasn’t relapsed since then (5 months approximately).
If you are a Starter (Free) Member, we can organise a private Q&A session if you want.
JavierModeratorHi Charlotte,
Thanks for your compliments. Of course you can get there too, no doubt about that!!
The next meeting will be in 2 weeks (there won’t be any meeting next Saturday, the 26th, we’re going ti take a break due to the holidays).
Would you like to have a free Q&A session with me (or any other coach) and ask me any questions yiu might have about the program, etc.?JavierModeratorHi Charlotte!
Welcome to WSSA! I’m Javier, a PWSS and one of the Certified Speech Coaches of WSSA.
It’s great to see that your speech is already improving, that’s fantastic. Keep it like that, you’re going to beat it too! It’s just a matter of time. I used to be a severe stutterer all my life, and I began stuttering at around the same age as you.
Here’s my Success Story if you want to take a look at it:
And here’s a video where you can compare how my speech used to be the first time I spoke with Lee and how it is now:
It took me 8 months to stop stuttering, but a lot of people have done it a lot faster than me. PWS normally stop stuttering in 2 or 3 months, but it depends on many factors. For example, one of my students became a PWSS in 5 weeks. After our second skype (second week) he stopped having bad incidents. And two weeks later he didn’t have a single bad incident in 4 weeks, so he posted his Success Story and became a PWSS. He hasn’t stuttered since then.
In any case, what we must know that you will stop stuttering, sooner or later. All you need is determination, patience and consistency.
The book alone is what many have needed to stop stuttering (it wasn’t my case). But the video courses, the videos of coaching sessions, the blogs and this Forum will surely make it a lot easier.
The video course of the Stuttering book is a great complement to consider. Having somebody (Lee) explain you the book, and to show you how to use the Crutches, for example, surely helps a lot.
Watching the videos of the coaching sessions is pretty much like being coached by us. And you can use the filters to find the sessions that suit you best.
And just like Gábor said, I strongly recommend you to attend to the weekly SAM meetings (Saturdays at 9am NY time, which, if I’m not mistaken, is 14:00h UK time). In these meetings you will be able to meet Lee, the rest of the coaches, other PWSS and PWS. You will learn how other PWSS stopped stuttering, make comments, ask questions. It is extremely motivating, and you learn a lot.
So I hope to see you this Saturday! The Zoom invitation to these meetings is at the end of the page of the Speech Club Section of this website:
Please do keep us posted with your progress with your speech, and do not hesitate to post your questions here.
Have a great day!JavierModeratorHi Charlotte! Welcome to WSSA. My name is Javier, and I’m one of the Certified Speech Coaches here. Just like you, I began stuttering when I was around 4 or 5, and over the years, my stuttering became reaaaaally severe. Here’s my Success Story, in case you want to take a look at it: https://speechanxietyanonymous.org/pwss/javier-madrid-spain/
And in this video you can see how I used to stutter the first time I met Lee, and how it improved until I became a PWSS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMnX2hvwsx4&ab_channel=LeeLovett
It is great to see that your speech is already improving. Great job! Keep working on it and you’ll stop stuttering sooner or later. It is all a matter of discipline, consistency and determination. It took me 8 months to stop stuttering. But I’ve coached people who did it in 5 weeks (that is, not to have any bad incidents in at least 4 weeks; so after our second coaching session, he stopped appearing speech dsisabled!!).
The video courses are a great complement to the book. Having somebody (Lee) explain the book to you really helps. There is also a lot of useful information in the blogs (in the “Community section”) and of course, watching videos of coaching sessions is pretty much like being coached. You can search the videos that suit you best using the filters.
And just like Gábor said, the weekly meetings (they start at 9am NY time, which should be 14:00h in the UK) are incredibly motivating: hearing PWSS speak, share their stories, how they stopped stuttering, it really helps. And you also learn a lot. Hope to see you this weekend. The Zoom invitation details are given in the Community –> Speech Club Section, at the bottom of the page: https://worldstopstuttering.org/speech-club/
We all look forward to hearing about your progress with your speech!
JavierModeratorHi Gábor,
getting to speak using only Crutch 13 is not easy at all.
The Crutches are actually ways to prevent us from thinking words, and focus on other things instead.
In my opinion, one of the easiest ways to speak without thinking words (C-13) is to speak in short bursts, slowly, and being passionate, so hand gestures are very helpful.
Give it a try!JavierModeratorHi Gordon!
You gave a great speech this last Saturday in the SAM meeting, by the way.About your question, I stopped stuttering something like 2 years ago. Every day, or almost every day, I do self-hypnosis in the morning, and sometimes at night too. As you might know, you might don’t need to focus all your affirmations to your speech, you can try to improve other aspects of yourself, that’s fine.
I try to read aloud a bit every day, I actually enjoy it, and I believe it still helps me continue improving my speech.
And of course, I use the Crutches when I need to. Speaking in short bursts, like a King, is always recommendable, as it will elevate virtually everyone’s speech.
So, in conclussion, I think it can be a good idea what you said: “I was thinking that I would do the full two-hour routine for another 3 months, to really ‘solidify’ the new neural pathways, and then taper back to 30 minutes of reading and one hypnosis session per day.”
In the end, we need to be our own coach, watch our way of speaking, and figure out ways to continue improving. Have you read the blog I posted here, some time ago?:
JavierModeratorGábor, I know how you feel. We are ususally too hard with ourselves, and especially with our speech, but as you said, you sounded fine to me. And definitely better than the first time we spoke in the Q&A session. So keep working on it!!!
December 8, 2020 at 9:08 am in reply to: You cant predict a stutter so how do you know when to use a crutch? #28417JavierModeratorI don’t think I’ve ever stuttered on a word (or letter/syllable) that I haven’t feared.
And even if that happens, you can detect it. You feel the anxiety triggering. Just like Gábor said, as soon as you see that you’re beginning to re-re-repeat or get stuck on a word, you can ALWAYS stop doing that (this means, to simply stop, to shut your mouth and stop tensing your muscles, jaw, neck, etc), to take a 1 or 2 second pause, and then use a Crutch.
I’ve done it a million times, and so have all the people who have posted a Success Story.JavierModeratorHi Gábor. The same happened to me. After some months, I managed to avoid the blocks that I used to have, but as you said, my speech was still “choppy”.
My suggestion, and what I did, was to focus more on Crutches 7-12 (I refer to these as “speaking styles”). As you know, they will also improve your speech, and virtually every one’s. So try to be more passionate (but not over-excited, so watch out for the rate of your speech), use extreme pronunciation, for example, had gestures, keep it short…. To make it short, use these Crutches (without forgetting about the others) 24/7.Hope this helps!
JavierModeratorHi Khaled,
for middle words the best Crutches are Crutches 7 to 12. But of course, you can say that you had a “ong” day and nobody will notice what you did there.But, as I said, for those cases I prefer to, for example, link all my words and do it a bit more slowly than I usually do. If I don’t leave any spaces between words, there is no space for stuttering to jump in, so it is impossible to stutter, as long as we don’t allow ourselves to hesitate. So you would say someting like: “IHaveJustHadALongDay.” If you pay attention, that’s how everybody speaks actually. They don’t say “I. Have. Just. Had. A. Long. Day.” This sound very robotic, don’t you think. It’s much easier to understand if you watch one of my coaching sessions (or of any of the other coaches, of course). In the video section, you can use the filters to search for the videos that work on this Crutch (Crutch nº 10).
Hope this helps 🙂
JavierModeratorHi Khaled,
I’m Javier, one of the Certified Coaches of WSSA. first of all, welcome!
About your question regarding FFW and Crutches:
– Frist Feared Words: meaning the first word of a sentence, or after a pause. Example: somebody asks you, “what’s your name?”, and you reply, “K-k-kKhaled.” In this case, “Khaled” is a first feared word. Crutches 1-8 would have avoided you from having this bad incident (appearing clearly speech disabled).– Crutches for FFW: the most suitable Crutches to avoid having a bad incident on FFW are Crutches 1-8.
Crutches for middle words: middle words are the ones that are not FFW. The best Crutches to use to avoid appearing speech disabled when saying a middle word are Crutches 7-12 (13). They are also “speaking styles”, and they will also make you a better speaker, better than most, even if they never stutterered. So we recommend to use these as much as possible.I hope this has cleared your doubts. And we look forward to hearing about your progress. Have a great day!
JavierModeratoryou’re welcome!
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