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I agree with you. Focusing on humming is helpful because it is the base and the core of our speech. Speech is basically movement (of mouth, tongue, lips, etc.) “on top” of humming. You realize that perfectly when you use very very light contacts, as if you are mumbling. Without the humming, there is no voice and movement alone will seem like you are just mouthing words. So the humming is like the river or the sea and movement is like the boat. Without the water, the boat can’t go anywhere. So humming in-between words keep the boat floating. Like anything else, it needs practice but it is surely helpful.
AmineParticipantHi Gabor,
Always inspiring to hear this kind of news 🙂 Way to go !
Just a quick question : what helped you the most to transform your way of speaking and to get gradually better in difficult situations ?
Amine
AmineParticipantThank you Javier. Yes, very clear.
AmineParticipantI’m not sure I know what is the Emergency Speech Plan. It’s like crutch 11 ?
AmineParticipantYes Javier you are right, Fahad’SS is inspiring. Always great to read how others made it.
Sun, maybe I’m wrong but my advice is : other than crutches (which are important), try to approach those meetings differently. Try to view them as opportunities to practice your new style of speaking. Try to convince yourself that you really want to attend them (with visualization, affirmations, self talk…). During the meeting, try to be present, to engage yourself as much as possible in the conversation (don’t get lost in your thoughts). If your speech is not as good as you want during those meetings, don’t ruminate, don’t punish yourself, it is not the end of the world. You don’t need to be obsessed about what the other(s) person(s) might think of you. You are doing your best.
I know it is difficult but try to do it as much as possible (this is what I am trying to do as well these days). As Lee said, we have to believe that we can cure.
AmineParticipantThe main point that I (and Sun) tried to tell is that you can practice crutches all you want in a comfortable environment but if you don’t put yourself gradually in more complicated situations, how can you cure ?!
Also, I don’t agree with the idea that stuttering is a crime that you should never commit so you should avoid every situation where you might stutter. That mindset just reinforces the fear of that kind of situations. And when you find yourself in a situation that you can’t avoid, the result is terrible.
If you might stutter heavily, I am not saying you should go make a presentation in a TedX and make a fool of yourself, I am just saying that GRADUALLY you should put yourself in slightly “risky” situations in order to : 1/ have the opportunity to practice your new style of speaking when it matters. 2/ lower that crippling anxiety and “holding back” threshold (not completely get over it because that takes a long time after curing).
Finally, I think that WSSA should not be a sect, and it is very important to keep an open mind to other people’s ideas. Personally I read books and testimonials of people who cured mainly thanks to a radical shift in mindset and beliefs + exposure. They stuttered of course in the beginning in those “risky” situations, but slowly they became more fluent, until they cured. I am not saying that this is the way to go, but why automatically dismiss those stories just because they do not exactly fit with one of WSSA’s concepts ? We should look for anything that can help PWS, anywhere.
AmineParticipantIf I am going to expand my comfort zone, I might stutter even while trying to use the crutches, but it is not the end of the world. The next time I will try to do better, focusing more on the solution that the problem. Then next time, next time, next time… Until I feel confident enough in that kind of situation. I think that it is not possible to master the crutches just by practicing them in comfortable situations. If I keep avoiding every risky situation just because I might stutter, I am not going anywhere with my speech.
AmineParticipantHi Leah,
Thank you for your answer.
It is interesting to see that in my message, I mentioned the word “fear” ZERO times, while you used it TEN times 🙂 It is is very important to define “fear” here. You say that fluent people would stutter if the fear caused stuttering, which is wrong. Fluent people do not fear saying the words, they fear the situation, like someone who has fear before an exam. Two very different concepts.
You mention your example too, you had fears a year after becoming a PWSS. Again, it is very different from what I was talking about in my message. I too manage to be fluent sometimes while feeling some fear. But above a certain threshold of fear / anxiety / apprehension, the “holding back” becomes way too strong, I totally and completely fuse to it and it is impossible to be fluent then. In your case (the year after becoming PWSS), you certainly felt fear but not the kind of fear that paralyzes you, and puts you in an extreme “holding back” mode.
Now about exposure. I think that no one has the perfect answer. And that is the case for stuttering overall. Lee has his methods, other people cured using other methods, etc. It is not a science. I know exposure helped many people to cure. Again, it is important to define what is exposure. What you talk about (the case of the guy in the retail business) is not exposure, it is being exposed. Very different ! Being exposed is being forced to face a feared situation and approaching it like it is some kind of torture. Exposure is WILLINGLY engaging yourself in an activity in order to desensitize yourself and expand your comfort zone. It must be done gradually and with the right mindset which is : willingness, open mind, without judgment, and in the case of stuttering while using a new style of speaking (crutches can help here).
PS : I saw Faris’s SS and for me he was not what I would call a shutdown blocker, just a heavy blocker 🙂 Shutdown blocker is when (in certain situations) you can’t manage to say any word or even any syllable without blocking / repeating / forcing.
AmineParticipantHi Javier,
We’ve never spoken but I watched some of your videos. You’ve come along way and congratulations for that. You and many others are inspiration.
I agree with every word you say. That change in mindset is very important and I am working on it. It will take time but there is hope.
Thank you again for your answer !AmineParticipantWhen I say exposure, the goal is to desensitize the shutdown blocker so that the extreme levels of anxiety / holding back that he/she feels will decrease over time. In a lot of other psychological issues, exposure (again, done the RIGHT way) has been proved to be very effective. So I wonder if it can be implemented in stuttering too.
Of course, exposure alone is not enough. But exposure + mind training and crutches might help.AmineParticipantHi everybody, I would be interested in joining a group too. 10 am EST is impossible for me though. So if there is another time from 1 PM EST, please let me know. Thanks.
Amine
AmineParticipantHi Leah,
Thank you so much for your answer. I am convinced ! And it makes sense. In fact, I am reading a book written by our well-known psychologist and yesterday I stumbled upon this sentence that confirms what you are saying. : “in 99,9 % of the time, our emotions do not control our behavior”. The fear just creates a tendency to act one way or another, but it doesn’t force us to do anything. The choice is still there. But it comes with practice. The next step for me is to focus all my attention on crutches when speaking. I’ll definitely let you know for the Zoom meeting, it is very kind of you 🙂
Amine
AmineParticipantTalking with you have been very insightful too. Thank you ! This is a very important phrase : “don’t bother about what others might think of your speech while using the crutches”. I will try to keep that in mind.
As for the SAM meetings, I’ve attended 2 or 3 times, because I am usually busy on Saturday afternoons but I’ll attend more in the future.
Thank you very much for your advises 🙂
Amine
AmineParticipantI read your response twice because I found it very interesting. It makes sense.
I personally see the fear as both a cause and an effect of stuttering. If I stutter, I will fear next possible stuttering situation. And if I fear a situation, my brain will more likely be in a fight / flight response mode, so it will be more likely for me to hold back, plan my words and stutter.
About the crutches, for example the humming / singing / linking one that Lee advised me to practice, how is it possible to use it at work ? I stutter mainly when I have to explain something complicated or sometimes when I have to give a very specific answer or ask about a very specific thing, so I can go for days without having to stutter. It would be ideal to practice crutches at work, but it is difficult to use extreme ones (like humming / singing) in a serious environment like this.
AmineParticipantHi Prathusha,
Thanks for the answer. I agree with what you said. But I was referring to thoughts that pop up in the mind when there is an expected feared situation for example. You know, that voice that tells you :”you will stutter in that situation” or “Oh that’s a difficult thing to say”, etc. As I said, there are two approaches regarding these negative thoughts and I am wondering what is the best one to apply. As I said the second approach was way more helpful when dealing with another kind of thoughts, but with stuttering… I don’t know yet.
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